isachandra (isachandra) wrote,
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Meat Eating Parents Starve Baby!

Enough with this vegan parent baby killers thing already. I probably get 10 angry emails a day about it, all of which I ignore along with the emails about canine teeth, lack of protein and instructions directly from god to eat meat. But this op ed piece by Nina Planck really bugged me. I wrote a response to it elsewhere, but I'm posting it here for good measure.

For starters, Nina Planck, is not a doctor or even a nutritionist. She is a business woman whose business is selling meat and dairy to people, including her book about why meat and dairy are good for you.

There are plant sources for DHA yet she chooses to omit that fact. She does say that plant sources for essential amino acids are "inferior in quantity and quality" but offers no evidence of this. Probably because there is actually no evidence of this. Humans can synthesize enough DHA from eating plant sources rich in Omega-3s, like flax seeds. So if the mom is eating her omega-3s and breast feeding, DHA levels should be sufficient and free of mercury and other toxins that a fish-heavy diet would surely contain. However, I'm not a doctor, so here is an article about vegan pregnancy and infancy by someone who is.

She says that this has happened three times in four years, but I can think of only one other case where the parents actually were actually feeding their child cod fish liver oil and so this seems to directly contradict Nina's assertions that fish oils would have saved the baby. It also contradicts the very notion that this baby was fed a vegan diet.

Also, how many babies starved at the hand of omnivorous parents in the past 4 years? I bet that Nina doesn't have those statistics at hand. "Meat Eating Parents Starve Baby" doesn't make a very good headline. Also, how many vegan babies did not die of starvation in the past 4 years? Again, that would probably not make a very sexy headline either.

Finally, I just want to add some anecdotal evidence into the mix. The vegan children that I know have all been vibrant, happy and healthy. If anything good can come of this recent tragedy it will be that some responsible reporter somewhere in the world will decide to do a story about them.


Who are these elusive happy, healthy vegan mom and baby?
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Thank you for posting this. I was infuriated by the original story - the baby didn't die because the parents were vegan. The baby died because the parents were neglectful, stupid, and probably insane!

There are numerous living, thriving examples of vegan children, including my own. Why doesn't Nina Planck pick on the parents of millions of children who grow up on McDonald's Happy Meals, Cheetos, and Coke and end up with a lifetime of health problems from obesity, diabetes, and heart failure?

There needs to be a response to this on the pages of the NY Times Editorial page, and I think it could come from someone like you (or me, if I calm down enough to write something sensible).
P.S. Here's my vegan kid, about to have her 5th birthday cake (vegan, of course).

061224_Birthday-8

hallucinas

10 years ago

ghd_mk4

7 years ago

proof of another healthy vegan baby, just in case you needed more ;)

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That shirt is amazingly awesome (and the baby too!)

girl_xxx

10 years ago

Another vegan child

Anonymous

10 years ago

Re: Another vegan child

Anonymous

10 years ago

> There are no vegan societies for a simple reason: a vegan diet is > not adequate in the long run.

Really? There aren't? So, all the places in Asia and South America and Africa where people traditionally eat exclusively plant foods are something completely different, just because they might not identify as "vegan" per se?

And yes, you (or someone) needs to write letters citing the various sources about heathy ways to raise vegan children. I've also noticed, for what it's worth, that the US papers are focusing on the "because the family was vegan" aspect, while non-US ones tend to focus on the "because they didn't feed their damn baby" aspect. Sensationalism sells. Guh.
I was thinking the same thing. Most of the country of China (is that a big enough society?), where eggs and dairy are rarely eaten and meat is traditional but not always affordable and rarely eaten in the villages, would laugh at that statement of hers.
Oh, also, I was planning on making a post on my blog (1smootshort.blogspot.com) asking people to provide pics and blurbs about their healthy vegan babies and children, to have a more concrete place to point people to when I mention "all those healthy vegan families."

Happily, I see that people are starting to do this here, and I'm guessing your following is a lot bigger than mine (and you're more known specifically as a vegan activist)...so would you be willing to make a post asking people to contribute pics and blurbs of their families for people to link to to rebut the "there are no healthy vegan children" assumption?
Great idea.
Man, I can only IMAGINE how much bullshit is in your inbox everyday!!!
Babies are made out of fish oil? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I had the exact same thought while reading.

Who knew?

saabisu

10 years ago

Also, since I have no babies, i'll give a link to page full of vegan kids. Some of which have grown into vegan teens!
Why didn't anyone point out that i'm stupid and didn't leave the link?

http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/realveganchildren

isachandra

10 years ago

I'm 7 months pregnant, vegan, and planning to have the baby vegan. This news story has gotten my parents all in a tizzy. Since they're NYT readers, it'll just be a matter of time before I get a phone call about the op-ed piece. Urgh.
you shouldn't worry. just follow your heart

seaweedgirle

10 years ago

growing_rose

10 years ago

devenydylom

9 years ago

thank you very much for sharing this and giving your opinion, too.
everyday I can see parents complaining to one another about how much (or little) their kids eat and I think to myself "don't give them poo and they'll eat well!"
I've seen enough evidence that veg*n diet is far more sustainable (if can I use the word in this context) and children are generally more happy, content and calmer.
that article really bugged me, as well. I'm glad to hear an intelligent and informed response!
I can't believe the NY times would post such a ridiculous and uninformed article. Anybody with 2 brain cells should be able to figure out that the baby didn't die because of veganism, it died because it was starved! Even the judge who delivered the sentence said "this isn't about vegetarianism or veganism, it's about the fact that the child was not fed". End. Of. Story.
People will go to any lengths to prove how "immoral" and "ungodly" veganism is.
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it bugs me how people get off writing such blatantly uninformed articles. It's as though Nina just formed her own very biased opinion and put it out there like fact without offering any evidence to back it up! And the sick part is people who aren't vegan will likely take it to be truth and not question why she would even be writing an article like that.

~Nessa

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Thank you for posting this. I was really upset when I stumbled upon this op-ed in yesterday's NYT. I like your reply. Did you send it in as a letter to the editor, by chance?
I didn't send it in as a letter, I don't feel like I worded it to be "Times Friendly", but I am sure they are receiving a lot of letters from well informed vegans.

boobalah

10 years ago

saabisu

10 years ago

aprilstarchild

10 years ago

boobalah

10 years ago

aprilstarchild

10 years ago

Weird, I wrote about it today too: http://foodieduo.com/

I'm not a vegan or a vegetarian, but I still thought it was bunk. Small world.
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